Our Life Beyond MKULTRA: Lies, Corruption and Love, An Interview with Elisa E.

““You have to understand that the alters…like my front-line system was amazing…all those years I worked and had a so-called normal life parallel to the other life.””

— Elisa E., interview extract

We are extremely grateful to have had Elisa E. back on the show, one of the best sources of information on the world of mind-control that anyone could hope for. A survivor of trauma-based mind-control herself, her ability to reflect on her experiences succinctly and coherently is definitely a gift to anyone researching this subject-matter and hoping to find out more.

Again, we do not claim that what we are talking about is the absolute truth, since that’s something we ourselves do not know. Our primary aim is always to inform – we intend to provide a platform for people to speak from; to listen carefully and analytically; and to intellectually engage with our guests. At times, suspension of doubt is required, but that is indeed the only way that a fully-informed opinion can be reached. Those that are unable to give a theory or a proposed idea the “benefit of the doubt,” even just for a moment, tend to be those that go through life monochromatically and unenlightened.

That said, we broach a number of topics and ideas during this WoTR episode, delving just a little deeper into the world of trauma-based mind-control. We focus more on Book 2 of Our Life Beyond MKULTRA this time round, since our first interview was based on Book 1. Nevertheless, we still recap a little of Book 1, providing both a foundation for the show, as well as a neat introduction for those who have not yet read Elisa’s books.

““If each and every person on earth began to form a conscious relationship with this Unconditional Love that resides within their Benevolent human soul, and obtained or made orgone generators (negative ion generators), malevolent kontrol would be banished as long as we each maintain. No war, no violence, just pure Love and Life.””

— Our Life Beyond MKULTRA, Book 2

What you have to remember is that Elisa does not claim that x, y and z, happened per se. At least not in every instance when she is recounting a bizarre story. For instance, take her various encounters with “aliens” or strange extra-terrestrial beings – she describes her memories as she recalls them, as she thought they happened. However, she fully admits that, when she recalls those various instances, they may not, in fact, have gone down as she believes them to have gone down. She admits that they may be screen memories, at least on some of those many occasions, perhaps implanted by someone else, or at times even self-induced due to the unbearable trauma that they are probably concealing. Alas, this is at the very core of trauma-based mind-control: traumatising and psychologically beating down the victim to the point of being able to fully reshape them mentally. It sounds absolutely horrific, almost unimaginable that one human could do this to another; unfortunately, that also explains why most people probably don’t want to believe in things like this. (As for the human aspect, whether these people are “fully” human or not is a whole topic in itself). Elisa explains how, a lot of the time, she doesn’t know which memories are “real” and which are screen memories – she is completely aware of that, and merely aims to inform us of the memories she does have. How we process that information is up to us.

Perhaps things can indeed get a little confusing when talk of “entities,” “demons,” “aliens, and “beings,” starts becoming heavier. However, bear in mind that this “strange” talk of inter-dimensional beings and seemingly “super-natural” abilities occurs a lot in MKULTRA/mind-control talk. For that reason, it may be useful for some of our listeners to do a bit of their own research, or even read a book or two themselves. We recommend maybe picking up one of Elisa E’s Top 4 Mind-Control Books or Elisa E’s Top 5 Mind-Control Films, which can be found at the bottom of this article here. Otherwise, one of Elisa’s own books, which we can never recommend enough. Be warned though, it does get heavy at times. Fascinating, nevertheless.

She is always “on it,” responding to our questions succinctly and allowing herself time to think where it is necessary – we definitely do not get the vibe that her answers are rehearsed in any way. She makes incredibly astute comments on our shows (often emailing in regarding our other interviews), displaying signs of an intelligent and analytical mind. I think it’s important to have this background knowledge of her when judging her narrative.

““Most people in the conspiracy community generally agree that the world I come from is 50 to 100 years ahead technologically””

— Elisa E., interview extract

And yes, of course she could be duping us, of course there exists the possibility that she may be a psychopath doing this for fun, or even a disinformant – alas, in this line of journalism, those are thoughts that should go without saying, and we are certainly not oblivious to the more nefarious possibilities. But, having researched these themes for the few years that we have, and having come in contact with plenty of people in the MK circles, we are still happy to stand by our opinion that Elisa E is, undoubtedly, one of the most convincing and (more importantly) trustworthy whistleblowers out there. Thus far, she has not given us reason to doubt her, and I believe that’s important to point out. In fact, it’s extremely rare in cases such as this.

One of several intense and disturbing collages featured in Elisa E.'s books, as well as on her website, Our Life Beyond MKULTRA. Used with permission.

We sincerely hope you enjoy listening to this interview as much as it was fascinating for us to conduct. We talk about societal conditioning, and the difference between programming and conditioning; inter-dimensional and non-human entities; esoteric sciences; interconnections with movies, including how the recent film Split may help us understand a fragmented mind; if and how one might spot a mind-controlled person; and what it actually means to be a “high-level bloodline ritually abused trauma-based total mind controlled slave.” We also briefly explore how some of the seemingly superhuman abilities of mind-controlled slaves may be scientifically feasible, such as breathing under water. Yes, it absolutely sounds too weird to be true, but science is slowly revealing things that we had previously thought impossible. In fact, isn’t that what every paradigm-shift does? Shift the very foundations of our beliefs and views of reality? Check out this article on the so-called “Aquaman Crystal”. And if we take into account that real technology (we’re talking underground government research here) is probably decades ahead of what the mainstream is selling us, it becomes a little easier to believe that some of this crazy technology may well be real, and in use right now, albeit unbeknownst to us.

A couple of great links for further education on this topic: Mind Control Simple To Complex & Alters and Triggers.

You can order Elisa E.'s book here: Our Life Beyond MKULTRA Book 1 and Book 2.

And, if you’re brave enough to tackle, "The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave” (By Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler), though please bear in mind that it is slightly dated at this point.

We find Elisa E’s story extremely compelling, and we continue to support her. Whatever it is that is happening to all these people, we hope that you will at least acknowledge that it is something. When so many people are coming out with the same stories over and over again (a quick google search will tell you that much), it becomes increasingly difficult to ignore this phenomenon.

Now for the interview, enjoy!

Another Mind Control Victim To The Slaughter? The Mysterious Murder of Tiffany Jenks

This past Sunday, we had John Captain III on the show – for over three years now, he has been campaigning for justice and exposure of the murder of his girlfriend, Tiffany Jenks. Three years on, however, the media is still brushing the facts under the carpet, and justice remains to be served.

We want to make it clear in advance: this story will come across as crazy and absurd to many readers; but we urge you to suspend your disbelief and cast aside your doubt, just for a moment, while you read this article and listen to the interview. Then go ahead and form your own conclusion. As always, we aim to remain as unbiased as possible, and give everyone a chance to speak. As J.S. Mill once said, “We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. [John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859]

Tiffany Jenks was murdered on October 8th 2013, at the age of 35 – she was shot in the forehead, by someone she did not know and had apparently only met that night, shortly prior to her death. Or so the police say.

For a general overview of the “official” story, check out some of these links:

www.kptv.com/story/23731932/court-documents-describe-night-of-tiffany-jenks-death-at-blue-lake-park

www.cbs46.com/story/23809980/man-charged-with-murder-for-death-of-portland-woman-tiffany-jenks

koin.com/2014/08/22/vivacious-tiffany-jenks-remembered-at-sentencing

However, the story that we present here on the show deviates a little from the publically released story, and we hope that it exposes as much of the truth as possible. John is here to speak about his lost partner and to tell us his side of the story, and we're here to question, listen, and give him a platform to talk on – something the police has not done.

What you need to know is that Tiffany Jenks’ case does indeed display all the stereotypical tell-tale signs of a mind control victim (or a victim of TMK, Total Mind Kontrol, as it is known in some circles): the evidence all points in that direction. She was a physically fit and beautiful woman; intelligent, a high-achiever and a college athlete; she had a top job; yet, she had drinking problems and, more significantly, mental problems. She also appears to have been quite a socially isolated person, despite her approachable personality. She would often hint at there being more to her than meets the eye…but it always remained ambiguous as to what exactly that was.

For anyone reading about this subject-matter for the first time, it may be beneficial to hark back to some of our previous interviews (e.g. “From Victim To Survivor - The Real “Jason Bourne” And The Dark World Of Mkultra), or do some quick Google research yourself. It may well be necessary, at least to get a light grasp on what we’re talking about. This link may also be useful to many of you, especially for those that may want to delve a little deeper and learn more about the various stages of Mind Control (be sure to follow monarchprogramming.wordpress.com, I find a lot of the information on there very useful).

Anyway, enjoy this interview, and we hope that it will enlighten you a little more as to what is going on in our world… We urge you to take action where you can.

Spread The Word and Spread The Love.

 

A Tour Through Esoteric Hollywood: Sex, Cults and Symbols with Author and Researcher Jay Dyer

Jay’s back at it again, this time joining us on West of The Rockies to talk about his new book, Esoteric Hollywood. With so much information packed into the book, we set out to focus on a select few movies, namely, The Shining, Rosemary’s Baby, and Close Encounters of The Third Kind. Of course, this also meant delving into the minds of Stanley Kubrick, Roman Polanski, and Steven Spielberg, the directors of those movies respectively. We also analyse the wider impact and scope of movies, as pertains to the actors involved; possible government or power connections; and, of course, the effects on the public viewers.  As usual, there was a lot to be said, and too little time.

The masked ball scene from Eyes Wide Shut (1999) Related: Examining The Esoteric Themes Of Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" with Jay Dyer.

We interviewed Jay back in June of last year, focusing mainly on Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut. For those of you that haven’t listened to that show yet, or perhaps would like more of an introduction into Jay’s work, head over to our article, Examining The Esoteric Themes Of Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" With Jay Dyer.

Is Hollywood really as glitzy and glamorous as it advertises to be? Is it just a façade for something much darker, hiding something far more nefarious and wide-reaching than we realise? It has long been known that the lure of Hollywood stardom can turn a good person bad, and poison even the purest of souls. What is the real motive behind the many evils we hear of, the doped-up stars gone crazy, the apparent secret and/or subliminal messages in movies?

Scene from Rosemary's Baby (1968) written and directed by Roman Polanski.

Of course, the Illuminati, government and CIA, as well as religious/cult involvement are always terms that pop up in discussions such as these. To what extent are these various entities or enterprises really involved in the film industry? Are movie directors puppets just as much as actors and pop-stars have often been thought to be?

The recurrent surrealistic themes of the aforementioned movies are certainly not to be dismissed, especially the common motif of a storyline that blends reality with fiction, waking states with dream sequences. In essence, they’re all pretty “trippy” movies, and that should not go unnoticed. Are they trying to inform us of something going on behind the scenes? Perhaps in Gorvernment? Preparing us for some sort of revelation or disclosure? Mass mind-controlling us, perhaps via various frequencies, subliminal messages, and even obvious messages? Alas, is that not what powerful propaganda and stringent censorship is doing in many nations right now even, and certainly in the past, e.g. Hitler’s Germany? Or….right here?

Scene from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) written and directed by Steven Spielberg.

Of course, we can’t omit the topics of MK Ultra and aliens in a discussion such as this. How might film play a role in the creation of mind-controlled (or “kontrolled”) victims? And how does this tie in to alleged alien encounters/UFO abductions? Do the ideas overlap? Are they both forms of mind-control, using trauma and screen memories to make the victim believe certain things, or cause them to have certain characteristics or abilities? It’s certainly no new theory that those experiencing bizarre or paranormal events may be the subject of false screen memories. Once again though, if this is indeed the case, we need to ask ourselves: to what ends?

We also briefly touch on something a little closer to current times, namely Stranger Things (the recently released science fiction-horror web series starring Winona Ryder) and the advent of a new age of entertainment where a “perfect” TV show or movie can be generated via an algorithm. Indeed, the writers working for Netflix are said to have used the huge amounts of viewer data and various algorithms in creating the storyline for last year’s paranormal TV hit (I say TV, though most people are probably watching these types of shows on their computer). The same goes for other Netflix originals. With that in mind, what does that mean for us, as viewers? Sure, on one hand, it’s great to watch something that is essentially guaranteed to be good, if not amazing. On the other hand…what other doors does this open? If the television and film industry is already digging this deep into our preferences, our lives, our minds, what else could they achieve? Or what are they already doing? The possibilities are vast, and often scary.

Needless to say, we also throw in some Scientology references (L. Ron Hubbard’s influence in Hollywood, even to this day, cannot go without mention), and briefly look at how Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons may have played a role in this scene (no pun intended…or maybe it was).

We hope you enjoy the interview – allow yourself to be taken on a little tour through Esoteric Hollywood:

Paranormal Lockdown, UFO Over Chile, Wikileaks & UFO Disclosure with Paranormal Investigator, Ben Hansen

Ben Hansen, inside Waver Hills Sanatorium for an episode of Paranormal Lockdown with Nick Groff and Katrina Weidman. (Source)

UFO over Chile - November 11, 2014. Photo: CEFAA

Regular guest Ben Hansen is back on WoTR Radio tonight, with another healthy dose of updates on all things UFOs and the supernatural. During this episode of West of The Rockies we discuss the TV show, Paranormal Lockdown on Destination America/TLC; paranormal investigations and the use of new technology; the debunking of the Mexican Air Force UFO sighting; the analysis of the new Chilean thermal UFO video; and a little discussion on Wikileaks and the Podesta/UFO emails thrown in.

Ben also talks about the upcoming paranormal event that he’s involved in, namely, “Night At The Surfing Museum,” presented by Haunted Orange County which will be taking place on February 22nd. You can also catch Ben at The 26th Annual International UFO Congress taking place February 15th through 19th in Scottsdale, Arizona. Ben will be giving a presentation on his analysis of recent presidential UFO comments as well as leading and hosting a night-time skywatch during the conference.

For more information on Ben and his upcoming appearances, check out his website: BenHansen.com

Enjoy the interview!