At this year's Contact In The Desert Conference, we sat down with Ryan Gable, host of the radio show, "The Secret Teachings," to get his take on all things occult, including the relationship between science and magic, as well as the power of symbols, and the benefits and pitfalls of these practices. We asked him about the possible nefarious goals of CERN, and we also discussed Manly P. Hall's legendary work, "The Secret Teachings of All Ages." We furthermore reviewed the occult practices of rocket scientist, and subject of the brand new CBS All Access series, "Strange Angel," Jack Parsons. Enjoy!